Re: Need help Identifying a Print


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Posted by mark waldman on February 21, 2002 at 06:33:06:

In Reply to: Re: Need help Identifying a Print posted by Hans Olof Johansson on February 20, 2002 at 08:53:38:

: DaniGirl,
In a book titled WE JAPANESE (written by Frederic de Garis for HSK Yamaguchi, maging director of the Fujiya Hotel in Japan, published in 1939 and reprinted numerous times at least through 1947), on page 114, advice is given about how to discern fakes from real woodblock prints. I quote: "The prints handled by Mr. S.M. Shiba, and Yamatoya, Miyanoshita, experts on color prints, are guaranteed as to their genuineness. The Ukiyoye Society of Japan...will gladly furnish information relative to color prints." Thus, Mr. Shiba was a seller of prints, alive in 1947, and I guess (we need verification on this point), he may have written out statements or appraisals for the art he sold.


: DaniGirl,

: On eBay and other websites I have seen maybe 15-20 prints with S M Shiba's guarantee of genuineness over the last few years. Among them there was at least one very obvious case of mistaken artist identity, as well as a number of other peculiarities. Anyone can make mistakes, but putting a seal of guarantee on them doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

: In this case, however, you can probably assume that the designer of the print was Kunisada (1786-1864). Incidentally, the years given by S M Shiba usually seem to refer to the period when the artist was active, not his lifetime. But if you want to be sure, you should post an image of your print.

: Best regards,

: Hans Olof




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