Re: Harunobu and Kokan

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Posted by Achiles Pied on April 04, 2003 at 23:27:18:

In Reply to: Harunobu and Kokan posted by Knut Myrer on April 04, 2003 at 10:47:20:

These are interesting observations. I thought the cloud device at top not at all unusual, so looked through two books on Harunobu, and confirmed the cloud design often at the top of his prints. However, the clouds ALWAYS contained a poem, and since the ones in this print are too clipped to work compositionally, I'd guess this is quite trimmed at the top.

The Harushige possibility is intriguing. The diagonals in this print are very stressed, which was something he liked to do compositionally, much more blatantly than Harunobu.

A real Harunobu expert could probably date this more accurately by the face and figures, which changed slightly from 1765 to 1770. I'm no expert, but I'd say the c1765 date is a little loose, as this is fairly clearly from the mid-late stages of Harunobu's color print career. A small difference of a few years, but if c1770 it puts Kokan into the picture.

: im contemplating a print from the recent catalogue from Mita Arts in Tokyo.
: They have an interesting Harunobu (no 7), but it does have acouple of funny features:
: Firstly the top border pattern (much like an inverted wave pattern).
: Ive not been able to find one other print from H with the same.

: Secondly the fence which is similar to one print attributed to Kokan (who was very fond of the western perspective)

: Apart from that the print figures are very typical Harunobu.

: But knowing that Kokan was a clever Ukiyoe artist and follower of Harunobu
: im very much in doubt. (Especially when it comes to paying the 3000 or so Euros)

: very grateful for any comments.

: Knut Myrer
: Oslo, Norway

: heres a link to the print (no 7) in question:


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